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November 03, 2004

Well, the American people have spoken

Idiots.

Posted by Mac Thomason at November 3, 2004 11:10 AM

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And that about says it all.

Posted by: Vicki at November 3, 2004 11:41 AM

I reiterate

Posted by: John Giotta at November 3, 2004 11:54 AM

You mislead stupid propagandist. F%#@ing terrorist sympathiser. Your bullshit partissan propaganda did not sway this nation.

Liberalizm is a disease, and you are infected!
Liberalizm=Socialism=Communism.
Dump your socialist views now and shake the disease.

Four more years...Yeah!

Posted by: David at November 3, 2004 12:46 PM

Say, that David fellow seems to be a grounded, well-reasoned individual... next to, say, David Berkowitz.

We are in a lonely position now, but we have to look forward. The days of the right-wing majority in Congress are numbered. Yes, they won a stunning victory, but what have they accomplished up to this point? The House has been under Republican control for 10 years now. Anything they could not get done by this point was either unimportant to them (term limits, school prayer), or they lacked the competence to get done (de-centralize and reduce the size of government). The mess is theirs, and we should take every opportunity to rub their faces in it as publicly as possible.

Posted by: Chris at November 3, 2004 01:01 PM

Ah, the politics of civility.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at November 3, 2004 01:09 PM

Hey, I think I found the troll who left my hate mail.

Posted by: Susan at November 3, 2004 01:12 PM

Spelling's good, too.

Posted by: Vicki at November 3, 2004 02:16 PM

Well, the Z's were probably an attempt to imply that liberals are Nazis. As well as Communists. And presumably anarchists as well, I haven't checked.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at November 3, 2004 02:40 PM

Mislead might be code as well? Partissan must be French.

Posted by: Vicki at November 3, 2004 02:46 PM

Don't blame me, I voted for Kerry/Edwards.

Posted by: Steve Plonk at November 3, 2004 03:22 PM

"Well, the Z's were probably an attempt to imply that liberals are Nazis. As well as Communists. And presumably anarchists as well, I haven't checked."

Or it could be some of that Xtreme spelling used to market to 14 year olds and people with no attention span.

Posted by: Susan at November 3, 2004 04:00 PM

Mac, take a deep breath.

You're a bright guy. Think about it. The whole of what became the Dem strategy. This wasn't about everyone loving John Kerry, it was about hating W.

Hell, the Dems might have had a better shot nominating Gus Hall based on that criterion.

I for one am glad that we won't find out exactly how bad a chief executive John Kerry would have turned out to be. The only hope exhibited by a lot of folks ...(can't really say 'pulling for the big D, cause it was more like pushing against the hated W) - anyway, the only real hope put forth was a semi-silent prayer that JFKII wouldn't be as big a mediocrity and tin-eared screw up as he'd been in his 20 years in the Senate.

Is that really the kind of hope needed to inspire a crowd to follow?

Not hardly. I think most folks went with him because the had the impression that he'd 'listen' to them and give them 'what they wanted' - when the very discordent array of groups pushing him forward would have probably degenirated, rather rapidly, into a big squabbling mob, with nobody even close to happy about not getting their way.

The first choice is over with. The electorate went with W. The second choice is more personal, resident with each individual that 'lost' - take a deep breath, and see where things go from here, or, spend the next three years constantly, and willfully re-tasting the same old useless and bitter bile, which will lead to once again heaving it forth to be recognized for what it is...recycled bile. And not very atractive recycled bile.

If the second choice is made for the second option, no amount of finger pointing or snarkiness will disguise the responsibility for it. And quite likely, a lot of people, myself included, won't be really sympathetic to the misery such a choice induces.

Just sayin.

Posted by: Wind Rider at November 3, 2004 08:08 PM

I strongly disagree with your characterization of Kerry's time in the Senate, and I think that he would have made a pretty good President considering the problems he would have inherited. But I think I was pretty clearly being lighthearted in this post.

At any event, I have no hope for the next two years at least. As you know, I don't like Bush and never have, but he has proven himself to be incompetent -- even a mediocrity would be a huge improvement -- and he's very likely to commit some other huge screwup. I was not joking below when I said I thought Bush could do something damaging and futile like trying to bomb Iran -- or North Korea -- into submission. Or drag us into a ground war that will demand a draft.

Moreover, the single most important appointment Bush is likely to make in the next four years isn't to the Supreme Court, it will be the Chairman of the Federal Reserve Board -- a once-in-a-generation job, and the second-most powerful man in the country. Kerry, almost certainly, would have chosen Robert Rubin, who would have been the right choice. Given the sorts of incompetents, yes-men, and toadies that Bush has consistently chosen for other top economic posts, I fear that he'll do the same for the Fed.

To me, the best-case scenario is a relatively early Iran-Contra type scandal that damages his ability to pursue aggressive policy but doesn't do any real long-term damage. I don't hope that this happens. I just don't have any confidence that anything better will, since there's no evidence Bush actually learns anything about governing, or even particularly cares for it. (As opposed to campaigning.)

Don't worry, this should be the only day of major bitterness. I can't stand watching the national Republicans preen like this, so I'll be avoiding the national news for awhile. It's going to be all fish and Alabama until December is my guess.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at November 3, 2004 08:28 PM

To me, the best-case scenario is a relatively early Iran-Contra type scandal that damages his ability to pursue aggressive policy but doesn't do any real long-term damage.

But, we already gots one! A CIA report has been out since early summer. It named names, and placed blame for 9-11.

Somehow (coughcoughWhiteHousestrongarmtacticscoughcough) the report has not been allowed to be released. What a funny coincidence!

i would hope that we could move on. But when you get comments like the one above about liberalizm, maybe it's time to realize that the other side will never move on. The important question then becomes how to deal with moron Americans like David, when the only thing that seems to have any effect is a boot to the head.

Posted by: (: Tom :) at November 4, 2004 07:48 AM

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