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August 28, 2005

Atlanta 5, Milwaukee 2

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Well, that was unusual. The Braves had only four hits, but two of them went a very long way; the Brewers had seven hits, two of which also went quite far but the situations for those were different, and the Braves won comfortably.

After going 1-2-3 in the first, the Braves loaded the bases with one out in the second with a walk (to Francoeur!), an error, and a HBP, but Francoeur was thrown out at the plate trying to score on a shallow fly ball. Then in the third, they got two more baserunners on walks, and Andruw got the Braves' first hit on a monster three-run homer for a 3-1 lead. In the fourth, they got an error and a single, and Hudson squeezed home Estrada for another run. At that time, they had four runs on only two hits. In the fifth, Andruw hit another long homer to make it 5-1 on just three hits. Furcal added the last hit in the seventh. So with just four hits and three walks, the Braves score five runs. Very efficient!

Tim Hudson allowed two homers as well, but both were solo shots, and most of the time kept the ball on the ground. Also, he didn't walk anyone or hit anyone, the Braves didn't commit any errors behind him, and Estrada made a nice throw to pick off a runner at second, defusing a runners-first-and-second, one out situation in the second. The Brewers wouldn't have another runner reach with less than two out in the game, except for one of those solo homers.

Andruw now has 42 homers and a four-homer lead over Derrek Lee and A-Rod. He also retook the lead in RBI with 102... The Cubs are pounding the Marlins and the Cards pounded the Natspos. The Mets are just underway and the Phillies are playing the night game... It's mostly divisional play from here on in, just a pair of series out of division. It starts with the Natspos for four beginning tomorrow, Sosa versus Patterson, which is on TBS.

Posted by Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 03:46 PM

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"and Estrada made a nice throw to pick off a runner at second, defusing a runners-first-and-third, one out situation in the second."

Ahem. First-and-second.

Big win, and the Marlins are getting trashed. Hopefully we add a little distance.

Posted by: Drewdat at August 28, 2005 03:54 PM

I'm very happy about today's win. Hudson was good, and we got to one of the best lefties in the league.

By the way, Frankie was batting 5th and Roach was 7th... maybe Bobby's wising up to what a good idea it is to drop Adam in the order.


Some day, Greg Maddux, Tom Glavine, John Smoltz, Bobby Cox, John Schuerholz, and very possibly Leo Mazzone will be in the Hall of Fame. The Joneses may make it, but our success has always had more to do with the organization (especially player scouting and development, as Dave Justice noted) and pitching, and less to do with hitting. Today's a perfect example.

Posted by: Another Alex R. at August 28, 2005 04:00 PM

Not to split hairs, but in my opinion Chipper is a lock for the HOF, Andruw still has a ways to go but I would not rule him out either...

Posted by: Rufino Linares at August 28, 2005 04:12 PM

&@%^$%@#. Stupid fingers.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 04:23 PM

Chipper first has to overcome the Ron Santo syndrome of dramatic 3B underrepresentation at the Hall.

Posted by: Another Alex R. at August 28, 2005 04:26 PM

HR lead over Lee is three, I think, since Lee hit a second one today.

Posted by: Colin at August 28, 2005 04:31 PM

Troll deleted and banned.

Posted by: Troll at August 28, 2005 04:32 PM

It was four when I wrote it.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 04:37 PM

Another troll, or possibly the same one, deleted. Get a life.

Posted by: Troll at August 28, 2005 04:39 PM

Fkkk....first we have to draw Sheets now we get Patterson.

Posted by: nms at August 28, 2005 04:45 PM

Bowman quotes Cox as saying he will bring up the expected in September ( Brower, Pena, etc.) and alludes to bringing up James and Marte but only if he can play them enough. Richmond ends its season September 5th and they ain't making the playoffs. So why not give them some experience in a pennant race?

Posted by: fjensen at August 28, 2005 05:03 PM

I'm out of sequence here--I really meant to post this after last night's game--but Rafael Furcal has turned into a heck of a shortstop. His hitting stats for the year are back where they should be (which is to say pretty darned good for his position, at least in the NL). But what really impresses is his fielding. Two of those plays last night were unreal--the double play from in the hole and the "go in the hole, check second, then gun it to first play." On top of which he is no longer booting routine plays as in the past.

I'm infinitely more concerned with this season than any future season; but also cognizant that this could be his last as a Brave. Enjoy it; I know I am.

Posted by: W. Diehl at August 28, 2005 05:09 PM

W.Diehl,

Roger that, sir.

When Raf made that "check-second-first" play last night, it occured to me that there's probably not another shortstop in the game who could make that play. Furcal's arm is simply a cannon.

Posted by: ububba at August 28, 2005 05:22 PM

Glad to see the Braves won today. We were in terrible traffic evacuating the Mississippi Gulf Coast. Please remember us in your prayers. We don't know what we will go home to.

Posted by: mary at August 28, 2005 06:55 PM

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 06:58 PM

I don't think it's a coincidence that Andruw got back on track on a day when he had a real hitter batting behind him. That 3-1 pitch on Andruw's three run homer was as fat as they come. I don't think that happens if you've got Mr. GIDP coming up next.

Posted by: nyb at August 28, 2005 07:08 PM

Padilla is so bad. I can't believe these guys are threatening for the division and in the Wild Card lead with only one starting pitcher. I guess a good bullpen and bats that fit your ballpark go a long way.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 08:28 PM

Things are getting a little easier, now. Not too easy, of course.

Every team in the National League except the Pirates and Rockies is within eight games of the playoffs.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 08:41 PM

Since I'm rooting for the Dimondbacks tonight ...

That was a SWEET save by Clayton to turn that DP. With that terrible throw, he'd be lucky to turn one, and he got the double.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 09:05 PM

Did you know the Red Sox will win the NL East because "they have great emotion on their ballclub"?

Joe Morgan deserved a Foul Four berth.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 09:25 PM

Missed the game today, but I have an unrelated question: Does anyone here subscribe to MLB.TV and if so, is it worth it? I'm going to be at college where there's only 1 cable TV hookup for the whole floor so I'm not going to be able to see any games at all except maybe a few playoff games. It's $30 for this year, probably because the season's mostly over. Is the web streaming good, can you see enough, is there good announcing/any announcing at all, etc.?

Posted by: jenny [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2005 09:37 PM

Why don't you buy it for one day, try it out, then, if it's acceptible, buy it for the rest of the year? One day is like four dollars.

I bought it once to watch a particular game, and it's not that great. I mean, it's what you expect from web streaming video. Tiny and blocky. For me, it was difficult to see the movement on pitches. It's just a TV feed from one of the teams at tiny size.

There is announcing, but I'd imagine it's hit-or-miss whether you get Braves guys or the other team's feed.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 09:48 PM

Jenny, I subscribe to MLB.TV because I simply has no choice as I live in Hong Kong. This is the only way I can watch the Braves on a consistent basis. The web streaming has improved a lot this year, and that's when I am talking about streaming data all the over across the Pacific Ocean. There is no control over the announcers. Sometimes, they will broadcast the games through the Braves affiliated network, some times (or most of the time, which I have written numerous complains to mlb.com) you get to watch the game through the opponent’s affiliated network (usually Fox Sports).

The resolution, as JoeyT has mentioned, is obviously not as good as watching the game on TV. So, I would support JoeyT’s idea. Try it yourself for one day and see if you can tolerate the shortcomings or not. I subscribe to it because I have no other choice, and it’s a good birthday present which I actually like, and my wife don’t have to think what to buy for me every year.

Posted by: kc at August 28, 2005 09:57 PM

Jenny,

If you are trying to save some cash, watch the Yahoo 'Gamechannel' and spend your money elsewhere. Just a thought?

Posted by: Alex R. at August 28, 2005 10:00 PM

Did Miller just say that 50-in-50 is in Louisiana tonight? Talk about bad timing.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 10:08 PM

But can't you see Berman covering a hurricane?

"Hi, everybody, we're here in 'Nawlins' which is about to be destroyed by Hurricane Katrina 'And The Waves'! Nobody's walking on sunshine here! The Swami predicts a storm surge of up to 25 feet..."

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 10:14 PM

Bell the out machine with another.

I still don't get that trade. I mean, sure, Urbina's good, but to trade the player who should be your starting third baseman for a THIRD dominant late-inning relief pitcher? Creating a hole in your lineup to overstock a position is the OPPOSITE of what is supposed to happen in a trade.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 10:16 PM

I'd like to see a hurricane covering Berman.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 10:17 PM

Yeah, but they were stuck with Bell. The mistake was signing him in the first place when Utley was already almost ready.

Posted by: Mac Thomason at August 28, 2005 10:18 PM

Another school of thought was that Ed Wade was trying to keep Urbina away from the Braves. I remembered we were supposed to offer Betemit to the Tigers or something. Too bad we get Farnsworth, who is actually better than Urbina this year.

Posted by: kc at August 28, 2005 10:22 PM

Braves, W
Mets, L
Marlins, L
Nats, L
Phils, L
Astros, L

As Lou Reed once sang, "Oh, it's such a perfect day..."

Posted by: ububba at August 28, 2005 10:32 PM

Bell shouldn't be a starting third baseman in the majors. Even if you're committed to having the guy on your roster, it's a poor use of resources to start him when Polanco's on your team. Being committed to paying a guy isn't really a factor in this trade. The manager committing to playing him so much is a problem, but if I'm a GM, that's a separate issue. The real issue is reducing the potential offense of a position to scrub-level in order to increase talent in a position where the Phillies are already strong.

Of all third baseman in all of baseball, according to ESPN stats, only Mike Lowell has a lower OPS. Aaron Boone has been better. Vinny Castilla has been better. Adrian "off the juice" Beltre has been better. Bell is awful. He's hitting in an EXTREME hitters park, and he's next to worst in all of baseball among regular third basemen. Regardless of his salary, he shouldn't be in there every day.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 28, 2005 10:33 PM

This weekend illustrates why the Braves only need to play just above .500 the rest of the way to win the division. Not one of the other eastern teams is superior enough to the others to put together a serious roll. Now that they will be playing each other, when the dust settles they will all be at about the same level as they are today. 90 wins will be enough to take the division, and the Braves will probably win a couple more than that.

Posted by: Kirk at August 28, 2005 10:41 PM

If MLB.TV is the same quality as the highlights they put in the Top Play archives, I think I can deal with that. And if you have problems with announcers, you do know that you can get MLB.TV and Gameday Audio, which lets you pick which team's announcers you want, for $40?

Alex, I know GameChannel is free, but it's not the same thing...I can't go that long without seeing my Braves. Unless I buy a TV/VCR and have my parents mail me VHS tapes of the games every day...heh.

Posted by: jenny [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 28, 2005 10:55 PM

Jenny, I think I have paid enough to get MLB.TV, and I don't feel like paying anymore just to hear the voices I want to listen. Besides, sometimes it's good to hear what the opponents think about the Braves.

Posted by: kc at August 28, 2005 11:23 PM

Jenny, where do you go to college? I'm up in Connecticut, and it's mostly a wasteland up here of NESN, YES and MSG. Are you at school in the South?

Posted by: Another Alex R. at August 28, 2005 11:40 PM

Seeing the Braves ahead by 4.5 games is such a comfortable feeling. Even more comfortable is that we have Smoltz and Hudson heading our playoff rotation this year, not Ortiz or Wright.

Posted by: kc at August 29, 2005 12:11 AM

Was it just me or the other night when I was listening to the braves game on the radio. Did chip say that eddie perez was in the sausage race?

wow.

Posted by: Ben at August 29, 2005 12:11 AM

Other Alex R: I'll be in Minnesota. As far as I know, their TV stations get jack.

Posted by: jenny [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2005 12:15 AM

Ouch...
I've never been to Minnesota, but I'm sure there's not much fun for a Braves fan up in that cold air. Except for the Mall of America, of course!

Posted by: Another Alex R. at August 29, 2005 12:36 AM

jenny, i am subscribing to mlb.tv for the third season now and the quality of the picture has staedily improved. Living in Germany, it's the only way to watch the Braves. $99 well invested.

Posted by: timo at August 29, 2005 01:30 AM

There's mall talk again...

Posted by: Malone at August 29, 2005 02:06 AM

Everyone here was brutally ragging Raffy early in the season. Fans, or just jerks?

Posted by: Concerned at August 29, 2005 07:47 AM

We should go to the booth for the instant replay, but I think I was pretty supportive of Raffy. I could be wrong.

Is it time for me to re-link the Andruw thread from June yet, or do I have to wait another little while? :)

Posted by: Kyle S at August 29, 2005 08:03 AM

Jenny, just buy the games you want to wath. The first few weeks of school you will be out meeting people and doing stuff. You won't have time to watch all the games anyways.

Posted by: Smitty at August 29, 2005 08:37 AM

Apparently, Marcus's propensity for running into things is genetic: Brian Giles hurt his knee colliding with Dave Roberts in the outfield last night. Somebody should do a study.

Posted by: jenny [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2005 08:45 AM

She can meet people AFTER baseball season. They're not going anywhere.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 29, 2005 09:04 AM

Jenny - don't forget Restaurants and Bars (that allow people under-21) as a great place to watch games. When I lived in Seattle, I just had to go down to the local Jillian's to watch Turner South games. I don't know what kind of town this school is in, but there's probably at least one place nearby that has far too many TVs per square foot and can pick up just about any game at any time. That and selective pay-per-view on mlb.com can probably get you through. Maybe you can mix in some TBS games in an empty TV lounge somewhere on campus too.

Posted by: creynolds [TypeKey Profile Page] at August 29, 2005 09:17 AM

Jenny, fake ID and real bar is another option exercised by many of your fellow students. Look into it.

Posted by: JB at August 29, 2005 09:54 AM

Besides, college life doesn't stop at 10:30pm. In fact, most activties don't start until late at night.

Posted by: kc at August 29, 2005 09:54 AM

Leaving out the tricks you can play with the DL, can someone explain to me postseason roster eligibility? Do you have to be on the 25-man roster at the end of August? The 40-man roster?

Posted by: Kirk at August 29, 2005 10:45 AM

I think I mentioned trading Raffy a few times earlier in the year...

Posted by: Malone at August 29, 2005 10:52 AM

It's 25-man at the end of August, I believe. And there are two DL angles. One is the position-for-position 60-day DL trick. The other is any person on the 15-day DL at the deadline immediately put back on the 25-man upon his return can play.

So if, say, the Angels had a young minor league pitcher without much big league experience on the 15-day DL, brought him back in the middle of September and immediately put him on the 25-man, he could pitch in the World Series.

For the Braves, it could apply for Brian Jordan.

Posted by: JoeyT at August 29, 2005 10:54 AM

Anybody expect any Chipper/Guillen payback? The way the Natspos have been playing, I bet they'd love a brawl right about now.

Posted by: basil at August 29, 2005 11:07 AM

I expect Farnsworth to throw at Guillen.

Does anyone know why Sosa and Thomson swapped starts? Did Bobby not want a Thomson/Patterson matchup?

What's wrong w/ Franco's elbow? LaRoche might be coming around, he looked decent in his last two outings. At least more patient, maybe good to let Francouer follow Jones and then Laroche.

Posted by: csg at August 29, 2005 11:15 AM

Thanks, Joey T. I guess the 15 day DL trick would also in theory apply to Hampton.

Posted by: Kirk at August 29, 2005 11:21 AM

No reason to bat LaRoche fifth against left hander. Jenny, my nieces will be at your arch rival St Olaf in Northfield. Cardinal fans from Mizzou I'm afraid

Posted by: Paul Virkler at August 29, 2005 11:29 AM

Do you think Bobby is trying to get extra innings out of Smoltz and Hudson to save our bullpen for the other three? Or is it just luck of the draw that HUdson is pitching great right now.

Sosa and Ramirez are pitching well, but we can only count on Sosa going 6 anything over that is a bonus. Ramirez is going late into ball games, but you never know what wil happen w/ this guy. He has looked great after his relief appearance.

Thomson, one can hope he will turn it around and I believe that this start against Washington will be the one. This is a big series and Thomson is good in the clutch. Lets look for good performances by our starters in this series!

Posted by: csg at August 29, 2005 12:27 PM

Braves win this series 3-1

Posted by: csg at August 29, 2005 03:31 PM

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